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Subject: [IP] Flight Risk

  • From: David Farber <dave@farber.net>
  • To: Ip <ip@v2.listbox.com>
  • Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 18:28:59 -0400


Begin forwarded message:

From: Bob Frankston <Bob2-0406@bobf.frankston.com>
Date: July 14, 2004 1:06:28 PM EDT
To: dave@farber.net, 'Ip' <ip@v2.listbox.com>
Subject: RE: [IP] Flight Risk

It sounds like a stupid question but what is the TSA protecting us 
against?

The new threat from steak knives? If the goal were just to knock planes 
down
then we know there are other ways. If it's against the exact 9/11 
scenario
then it's a classic case of fighting old battles. If it's against 
planting
explosives then El Al's approach is quite different and targeted at that
threat.

What's the real cost of the TSA system? Perhaps it's necessary for 
marking
purpose to make people think flying is safe but ...

Are there any measures of what TSA has prevented beyond the number of 
pocket
knives confiscated -- now I can't open packages because I have no longer
carry my little knife. Of course many would argue that the threats 
haven't
materialized because of the TSA but that's not very convincing.

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-ip@v2.listbox.com [mailto:owner-ip@v2.listbox.com] On 
Behalf Of
David Farber
Sent: Monday, July 12, 2004 18:49
To: Ip
Subject: [IP] Flight Risk



Begin forwarded message:

From: Richard Perlman <perl@lucent.com>
Date: July 12, 2004 6:00:59 PM EDT
To: dave@farber.net, Ip <ip@v2.listbox.com>
Subject: Re: [IP] Flight Risk

Dave:

Well, if Michael Scherer isn't on the TSA payroll he sure ought to be.
This
may be a piece of serious journalism, but, it sure sounds like a planted
story to get more resources for the TSA and, by the way, clear hurdles
for
expansion of the so-called Patriot Act.

This brings up the whole topic of managed news (AKA propaganda).  Am I
the
only one who noticed a sharp increase in the media concern for women in
Afghanistan prior to the US invasion?  We would be very naïve if we
though
that the CIA, FBI, etc. had stopped doing what they have done for
years, and
were clearly identified as doing as recently as the war in Vietnam.

There must be some scholarly work on this topic, and I bet that the
Ipers
know where it is.

Richard

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