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Subject: [IP] more on Law would put 'In God We Trust' in schools

  • From: Dave Farber <dave@farber.net>
  • To: ip <ip@v2.listbox.com>
  • Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 17:48:42 -0500


------- Original message -------
From: Bob Frankston  <Bob2-19-0501@bobf.frankston.com>
Sent: 7/4/'05,  17:37

In elementary school I was in the music class and we were taught to sing the
Pledge of Allegiance. That version did not have &quot;under God&quot; -- the teacher
explained it was added in the 50's (the class itself may have been in 1960).
At my high school (Stuyvesant in NYC) graduation I was surprised to find I
was far from alone in my silence during that phrase.

It's not that I really cared about pledging allegiance to a flag -- as
noted, it was a meaningless mantra but even then I found the under god part
offensive. I guess &quot;they&quot; are right about those of us in the Northeast.

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-ip@v2.listbox.com [mailto:owner-ip@v2.listbox.com] On Behalf Of
Dave Farber
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 18:12
To: ip
Subject: [IP] morre on Law would put 'In God We Trust' in schools



------- Original message -------
From: DV Henkel-Wallace  <gumby@henkel-wallace.org>
Sent: 7/4/'05,  7:57

&quot;Proponents&quot; may consider it harmless, but injecting more mindless 
repetition of the word &quot;god&quot; seems to be the best way to get kids to 
tune it out.  Unless kids in Pennsylvania are different from those 
anywhere else.

Achieving that would be fine with me, but is it really what they intend 
to accomplish?

Repeated, public avowals of faith may appear threatening to some, but 
to me they always come off as the actions of people trying to 
compensate for their own doubts or self-perceived lack of faith.  Those 
with deep and strong religious convictions are usually content with 
their beliefs and feel little need to proselytize.

-d

On 07 Apr 2005, at 05:07, David Farber wrote:

> Law would put 'In God We Trust' in schools
>
> Thursday, April 07, 2005
> By
> Bill Toland, Post-Gazette Harrisburg Bureau
> [...]
> proponents say it's an historical motto that harmlessly brings a
> little bit of God into schools, while opponents say it's a possible 
> breach
> of the church-state



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