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Subject: [IP] more on U.S. shuts down network that leaked 'Star Wars'

  • From: David Farber <dave@farber.net>
  • To: Ip ip <ip@v2.listbox.com>
  • Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 17:11:28 -0400



Begin forwarded message:

From: Bob Frankston <Bob2-19-0501@bobf.frankston.com>
Date: May 28, 2005 11:22:08 AM EDT
To: dave@farber.net, 'Ip ip' <ip@v2.listbox.com>
Cc: 'Dewayne Hendricks' <dewayne@dandin.com>
Subject: RE: [IP] more on U.S. shuts down network that leaked 'Star Wars'



Rereading this I realize that the headline is wrong -- EliteTorrents is not
a network. The site itself didn't leak anything. All it did was advertise
the availability.


This plays into basic misunderstandings of what the Internet is -- it's a
misunderstanding encouraged by those who do want to see the Internet as just
another television channel and who see networks as brands not technologies.



-----Original Message-----
From: owner-ip@v2.listbox.com [mailto:owner-ip@v2.listbox.com] On Behalf Of
David Farber
Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2005 10:42
To: Ip ip
Subject: [IP] more on U.S. shuts down network that leaked 'Star Wars'




Begin forwarded message:

From: Dewayne Hendricks <dewayne@warpspeed.com>
Date: May 27, 2005 11:20:22 AM EDT
To: David Farber <dave@farber.net>
Cc: carl@media.org
Subject: Fwd: [IP] more on U.S. shuts down network that leaked 'Star
Wars'






Begin forwarded message:

From: Carl Malamud <carl@media.org>
Date: May 26, 2005 11:00:13 PM EDT
To: dave@farber.net
Cc: Ip ip <ip@v2.listbox.com>
Subject: Re: [IP] U.S. shuts down network that leaked 'Star Wars'





[...go to the former EliteTorrents site, just to see the page that
the
FBI and Homeland Security has put up in place of the regular
EliteTorrents homepage: <http://elitetorrents.org/>.  DLH]






Dave -

I went there and was intrigued.  http://elitetorrents.org/ goes
to a frameset which includes:

http://192.31.21.68/Shut%20Down%20By%20FBI%20AND%20ICE_files/

That, in turn, yields this traceroute:

15  unknown.level3.net (64.156.191.10)  62.733 ms  44.501 ms
45.521 ms
16  inet-sdsc-sdsc2--lax-isp-ge.cenic.net (137.164.24.206)  68.372
ms  47.105 ms  53.644 ms
17  medusa.sdsc.edu (132.249.30.10)  49.865 ms  48.938 ms  48.747 ms
18  www.dhs.gov (192.31.21.68)  52.224 ms  49.003 ms  47.183 ms

So, unless dhs is tunelling inside of sdsc, this looks like
it might be somewhat suspect.  :)

Carl



I also did what Carl did and it was one of the reasons that I suggest that folks take a look at the page in my original posting. Also, I found in a number of other forums that others also noted this curious fact. Its hard to hide things from savvy folks on the Net. I also saw it reported the the EliteTorrents BT tracker continued to work after the takedown, which would imply that some of their servers were continuing to function. It would appear that all the 'raid' did was take down the website where folks would go to search for and pick up torrents. I suspect that it will be a time until we all hear the true story of what took place on this takedown of the EliteTorrents site, from any of the parties, including the MPAA.

-- Dewayne



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