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Subject: [IP] more on boy, I will avoid those stores djf if you wish company refuses to sell Internet services or other contract-based plans to people over 70 or under 70?

  • From: David Farber <dave@farber.net>
  • To: ip@v2.listbox.com
  • Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 12:12:11 -0400



Begin forwarded message:

From: Bob Frankston <ob2-19-0501@bobf.frankston.com>
Date: September 3, 2006 11:40:17 AM EDT
To: dave@farber.net, ip@v2.listbox.com
Cc: Cory Doctorow <doctorow@craphound.com>
Subject: RE: [IP] boy, I will avoid those stores djf if you wish company refuses to sell Internet services or other contract-based plans to people over 70 or under 70?


I wonder what the real story is – is this a droid making up explanations or an official policy?

Is it that the store owners simply think of the Internet as another television channel and can’t understand it themselves?

If it is as presented then I’m curious about the contract. If it’s as witless as Verizon’s (which has clauses like forbidding using the connection to disparage Verizon) then a willingness to sign it may be evidence of a failure to understand the contract – though I think of many of this as more like the contract on the back of a parking lot voucher – just there to frighten the children but being too absurd to be enforceable and you don’t have a real option to bargain.

Why is it so important to “understand” the terms of the contracts. Who is being protected and from what? If connectivity is vital then is this akin to saying that people under 70 are no longer allowed out of their house because they can’t understand the terms of the sidewalk provider’s contract. (http://www.frankston.com/? name=Sidewalks).



-----Original Message-----
From: David Farber [mailto:dave@farber.net]
Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2006 11:05
To: ip@v2.listbox.com
Subject: [IP] boy, I will avoid those stores djf if you wish company refuses to sell Internet services or other contract-based plans to people over 70








Begin forwarded message:

From:   Liz Ditz <ponytrax@batnet.com>

Date:    September 3, 2006 10:48:45 AM EDT

To:       David Farber <dave@farber.net>

Subject: for IP if you wish company refuses to sell Internet services

            or other contract-based plans to people over 70



http://www.boingboing.net/2006/09/03/carphone_warehouse_r.html

Cory Doctorow refuses to sell Internet services or other contract- based plans to people over 70 unless they are accompanied by a young person. They say that septugenarians are too old to understand the terms of telecoms contracts.

Mrs. Greening-Jackson, who sits on the board of several charities, said: “I was absolutely furious. The young man said, ‘Sorry, you’re over 70. It’s company policy. We don’t sign anyone up who is over 70.’

“Later a young lady said company policy is that anyone over 70 might not understand the contract. She said, ‘If you would be prepared to go to the shop in town and take a younger member of your family we might give you a contract.’

“I have just completed a visa form to go to Russia. Last year we did one for walking the Wall in China and here is this person saying I would not be able to understand a basic form - and it was basic. It is pure ageism.

“Somebody has decided when you turn 70 you lose a lot of your mind. I find this is ridiculous.”

original article from daily mail

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?

in_article_id@3333&in_page_id70




Liz Ditz

ponytrax@batnet.com



blog: http://lizditz.typepad.com

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