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Subject: [IP] more on YUP!! results of uk ban

  • From: David Farber <dave@farber.net>
  • To: ip@v2.listbox.com
  • Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 20:12:56 -0400



Begin forwarded message:

From: Bob Frankston <Bob2-19-0501@bobf.frankston.com>
Date: August 10, 2006 7:59:26 PM EDT
To: dave@farber.net, ip@v2.listbox.com
Subject: RE: [IP] more on YUP!! results of uk ban

Remember that El-Al is very concerned about threats but uses human factors as part of its approach but that takes a lot of training and skill.

I wonder what the specifics of the threat are – it seems to be an extremely wide ban for a threat that seems very specific. How does one decide when the threat is no longer present? Will flying through another country be a way to avoid this threat?

As to Boston and RomneyV2, here’s what’s on Logan’s site: http:// www.massport.com/about/press_news_airpor3.html. No mention of laptops. At the TSA site (http://tsa-7.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/tsa.cfg/ php/enduser/std_alp.php) they specifically say “TSA continues to allow laptop computers, cell phones and other electronic items.” There’s other info there, of course, though the site is a bit creaky.



-----Original Message-----
From: David Farber [mailto:dave@farber.net]
Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 19:24
To: ip@v2.listbox.com
Subject: [IP] more on YUP!! results of uk ban







Begin forwarded message:

From:   Ari Ollikainen <Ari@OLTECO.com>

Date:    August 10, 2006 7:08:14 PM EDT

To:       dave@farber.net, ip@v2.listbox.com

Subject:            Re: [IP] more on YUP!! results of uk ban



At 6:37 PM -0400 8/10/06, David Farber wrote:

Begin forwarded message:



From:         Benjamin Kuipers <kuipers@cs.utexas.edu>

Date:          August 10, 2006 6:01:10 PM EDT

To: dave@farber.net

Cc: ip@v2.listbox.com

Subject:      Re: [IP] results of uk ban



From reading the restrictive lists, it appears that you can’t even

carry on a book to read, or a notebook to write in.

This amounts to being sentenced to spend a trans-Atlantic flight

watching television or movies, or listening to the airlines’ choice

of listening matter.  Shades of “1984”, where each citizen is

required to own a television set, which it is illegal to turn off!





Over reaction spreads ...

“... Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney said that state’s

National Guard has been activated to increase security at Logan

International Airport outside Boston, the first such call-up since

the Sept. 11 attacks.

Passengers traveling through Logan may no longer bring aboard cell

phones, laptop computers or iPods, as well as any liquids, Romney

told a news conference in Boston... “

Source: http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news? pid=20601087&sid=aei.iEm4Qt0I&refer=home








--


“It happens not to be the area where weapons of mass destruction

were dispersed. We know where they are. They’re in the area

around

Tikrit and Baghdad and east, west, south and north somewhat.”

·         Donald Rumsfeld, Mar.

30, 2003




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